Subject	Here's a news report with some possibilities....
Posted by	Dustin on November 11, 2005 at 3:43 PM
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In Reply To	Do you have data to indicate ethanol is having an effect? (n/m) posted by spicyZ on November 11, 2005 at 03:21 PM
Message	www.jsonline.com/news/metro/mar05/312573.asp+ethanol+%2Binjectors&hl=en ]">Ethanol suspect in fouled injectors Dustin
Follow Ups	Second 555cc Injector failed in two months - HoracePinker 13:46:52 11/11/05 that does suck - maglito 13:59:27 11/11/05 ethanol??? doh!!!! - HoracePinker 14:05:36 11/11/05 yeah, farmers love it - maglito 14:45:47 11/11/05 Ethanol is a joke. That garbage should not be in our gas. (n/m) - Kenny 14:48:09 11/11/05 Big 2nd. (n/m) - Dustin 14:53:08 11/11/05 I really don't think it's the ethanol killing our injectors - ZLover4Life 14:50:43 11/11/05 That's hardly enough data to make any conclusions at all. (n/m) - Kenny 14:52:07 11/11/05 it may not be 100% conclusive - ZLover4Life 15:10:02 11/11/05 Or it is the more obvious random manufacturing error. - 300NASeattle 15:56:53 11/11/05 Do you have data to indicate ethanol is having an effect? (n/m) - spicyZ 15:21:00 11/11/05 Here are proponents of ethanol admitting it screws them up. - Kenny 15:32:31 11/11/05 Wow...great post. - SeedyROM 15:59:13 11/11/05 So it appears the problem is two fold. Faulty "insulation". - HoracePinker 16:07:22 11/11/05 not sure where to jump in here, but... - Zrevolver 15:35:44 11/11/05 Why do you guys have to ask for everything? - Kenny 15:40:16 11/11/05 are you the world's most menstrually cramped man or what? - Zrevolver 18:04:03 11/11/05 I love you too sweetheart <3. - Kenny 20:18:54 11/11/05 thanks pookie-kins, lol (n/m) - Zrevolver 03:03:18 11/12/05 Here's a news report with some possibilities.... - Dustin 15:43:36 11/11/05 link didnt work (n/m) - Zrevolver 18:06:55 11/11/05 2nd attempt - Dustin 19:12:00 11/11/05 Well is there anyone out there who has used a given type of - HoracePinker 14:56:49 11/11/05 I had a 555 die at 3,000 miles. Only used Sunoco 94 Octane. (n/m) - BummedOutMonkey 15:03:41 11/11/05 You do realize that it's all the same gas, regardless of - ENVYMYZ 16:23:04 11/11/05 Clogging up is not the problem...the resistance goes out of - Only1Z 19:38:54 11/11/05 I agree that that is usually the case - ENVYMYZ 09:46:51 11/12/05 How do you know? (n/m) - Only1Z 10:36:51 11/12/05 did I say anywhere that the gas itself was causing the issue - ZLover4Life 19:43:53 11/11/05 Save for new injectors? Well... - HoracePinker 14:52:32 11/11/05 you will need a new rail - maglito 14:59:43 11/11/05 you'll need - Adam (NoVA) 15:08:43 11/11/05 Man this is crazy, I so dont have thousands to spend right - HoracePinker 15:31:00 11/11/05 Thousands? - Kenny 15:35:16 11/11/05 Well perhaps not 1000s but atleast $1200 or so for the parts - HoracePinker 15:37:22 11/11/05 You also need to pop the timing belt and upper idler pulley - whitepearlz 16:06:42 11/11/05 Are you busy this coming spring? Wanna road trip to - zgene4 19:12:03 11/11/05 Sure thing. Shoot me an e-mail. Get it done in time - whitepearlz 22:22:45 11/11/05 here is what you need - yellowzxtt 16:30:11 11/11/05 any idea how ethanol can affect the injector's lifespan? (n/m) - ZEngineer 15:09:13 11/11/05 It decreases it. (n/m) - Kenny 15:12:45 11/11/05 why? (n/m) - ZEngineer 15:14:36 11/11/05 Jeez, you are lazy. - Kenny 15:31:25 11/11/05 So if I use gas with NO ethanol should I be ok? - HoracePinker 15:41:43 11/11/05 I doubt ethanol is the only additive that could... - Kenny 15:46:05 11/11/05 Well its not like everyone that has a 93 and earlier Z is .. - HoracePinker 15:50:10 11/11/05 It does seem to be more prevalent with the aftermarkets... - Kenny 15:53:28 11/11/05 MOTHER BITCHES!! Why couldnt they have gotten smart 3 years - HoracePinker 15:55:25 11/11/05 You're asking the wrong question. - Kenny 16:05:47 11/11/05 Well either way, this means I am definatly avoiding Ethanol - HoracePinker 16:09:19 11/11/05 yes, you're glossing over olefins - vorpalZ 23:24:32 11/11/05 Map for gasoline requirements... - Wingnuttzx 19:54:38 11/11/05 Search. Robo has something on it 11-1-2005 general. (n/m) - slowjohn 14:13:37 11/11/05 Welcome to my world, I'm not sure if I 100% believe the - RAGTPZ 14:35:51 11/11/05 witha car as nice and complete as urs, you should just - CollegeBoy 14:46:27 11/11/05 After replacing all those injectors, it's cheaper to convert (n/m) - Kenny 14:59:10 11/11/05 Yep - total cost for me to put 740s in the white car was - boileralum 15:01:53 11/11/05 I may do exactly that this winter as the plenum is going to - RAGTPZ 16:11:52 11/11/05 Are fuels with MTBE in that catagory? (n/m) - WAGGZ 15:06:08 11/11/05 No. (n/m) - Dustin 15:36:54 11/11/05 You sure they don't have any in it? - SeedyROM 15:59:39 11/11/05 Must be disclosed here, really only the cheap "minimart" gas - RAGTPZ 16:10:20 11/11/05 All the 94 around me turned to 93 :( (n/m) - Mickie 16:10:41 11/11/05 Sunoco at the corner of Montgomery Rd. & Galbraith Rd. still - RAGTPZ 16:12:57 11/11/05 Jesus Curt! You cant get a break can you?! - aztec300zx 15:22:33 11/11/05 Aparently not bro. I knew who you were :P.. You should come - HoracePinker 15:32:55 11/11/05 Nothing like grindin on the plenum! - aztec300zx 17:00:47 11/11/05 Not sure of the cylinder number but its the middle cylinder - HoracePinker 20:58:42 11/11/05 Ive heard of this many times yet I havent had problems(yet) (n/m) - WAGGZ 15:49:00 11/11/05 I've never had a problem with mine, and mine have about 50k - Moxie 16:26:22 11/11/05 im not getting anything but 94 sonoco from now on =( (n/m) - Z_SaMuRai 16:26:37 11/11/05 maybe another issue? - tyler@boostpro.net 18:11:15 11/11/05
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